In this episode, we  explore the world of yoga and mindful movement. I had the most amazing conversation with yoga goddess Julie Hansen, who has been empowering aspiring yoga teachers with her knowledge and skills for over 20 years. We talked about tuning into your body and setting monthly intentions. Listen out for why it's important to change your self care routine every couple of months.

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>> Claire Gray: Thank you very much for joining me today, Julie. I know that you are a very, very busy woman. and for those of you that haven't heard of or haven't met Julie before, if you've practised yoga in Glasgow, it's more than likely you've practised with somebody that Julie's taught yoga to, isn't that right?

>> Julie Hansen: Yes, probably likely. Very happy to say.

>> Claire Gray: Yeah. Yeah. So when did you start yoga yourself?

>> Julie Hansen: I actually started, in the mid-90s, having had a career in fitness and being a fitness teacher for 20 years before that. And I, got a bit, aware of my pelvic floor not being quite as buoyant as it had been previously before having two children, one at 37, one at 40. And I thought, right now I need to find something that's a bit more aligned with somebody who's getting a little bit older and needs to do something a bit more mindful.

>> Claire Gray: Okay. Okay.

>> Julie Hansen: So I went to look for a yoga class and found it very difficult to find one was my first thing. So I found a certain practise called Drew Yoga actually. And that was a bit slow for me. and I was still wearing the Lycra up the bum cheese thing, cheese cutter, you know, in the matching head, headgear and earrings. And it wasn't quite doing it for me, you know, that it's not quite physical enough. Right.

>> Claire Gray: Okay.

>> Julie Hansen: And then I found the lovely Jerry Kelty who taught me Iyenga combination with Ashtanga. And I thought this is more like it. This is active and moving. And that was me really, on a journey from that point. So that was mid-90s, late-90s.

>> Claire Gray: Okay. So I mean, I mean very different from nowadays because if you look for a yoga class nowadays, there's such a massive range of them. But what I've always found confusing is all the different types, like not knowing, not wanting to go to one in case I'm, not at that level or just not even having an understanding of what Ashtanga is, what Vinyasa is. Could you give as a bit of an insight into the different forms of yoga, please?

>> Julie Hansen: I mean, I think the first thing I'll say about this is even in its title, doesn't really tell you what the class is going to be like.

>> Claire Gray: Okay.

>> Julie Hansen: Do you know what I mean? So if you see a title and the description is one that you think, maybe not. You know, you might see this class is for fitness professionals who like to do head balances. And you might be thinking you want a gentle, relaxing class, you might go, I'll not try that. But the, the class that's taught to you is hugely about how the teacher puts over her message, her experience, her age, her clientele. And the great thing about this baby boomer generation now and Gen X being a huge population is under normal circumstances, the classes are now a little bit more aligned with being kinder to people rather than trying to, you know, put you into a pulp of, dust and sweat at the end of it.

>> Claire Gray: Yeah.

>> Julie Hansen: So, you know, the best way probably.

>> Claire Gray: Is to go, just go and try, try it out first.

>> Julie Hansen: Okay. And then, or say to people on the way in, you know, you can join the class who's, you know, and then you'll get people telling you exactly what's gonna happen in there, or if it's in a club or studio, asking people on the way out, what was that about? You know, is it difficult? You know, how long have you been coming? So, other people tell how their experience is always a good.

>> Claire Gray: Okay. Yeah. Cause I think, I mean, I said to you earlier on, I do hot yoga, but for the first 18 months probably of me going to the hot yoga studio, I only did the Pilates side of things because I was too scared and too intimidated to go and do the bikram because like you said, I thought I'm gonna end up like in just a mess at the end of the class.

>> Julie Hansen: I know, it's, you know, one of the things that I'm really, really keen on as a teacher of teachers is that the experience should not be scary. People should not be intimidated by it. And I think that, you know, yoga is in its name, intimidating to start with. And I think that really, you know, it is more not like that. now it's not so cliquey and it's not so narrow focused into being able to cut a shape like a pretzel, while you're still looking glamorous, you know, dressed in tight fitting clothing. It's so gone away from that.

>> Claire Gray: Yeah.

>> Julie Hansen: Which I'm very relieved to say.

>> Claire Gray: Yeah, it's a lot more accessible than it's, than it's ever been possible.

>> Julie Hansen: It absolutely is. And the lovely thing for me is when, we run teacher trainings and we run them all over the country. We did run them in Europe but Covid, kind of a combination of COVID and Brexit kind of could an end to that. But, we run teacher trainings everywhere and I go and teach on all of them as well as concentrate, on my own in Glasgow. But the whole mix of people is so wide, it's so amazing. And now look at a room of people. And was teaching at one of our lovely teachers, Carla and Prana Yoga in Hamilton, on Sunday or Saturday and she's got a lovely guy who's in his late 60s and a load of different sizes and shapes and of people who come from all different walks of life, from somebody quite young to somebody middle aged. All different people. And it's lovely to see.

>> Claire Gray: Amazing.

>> Julie Hansen: Yeah.

>> Claire Gray: No, that's good and that's encouraging because you don't want to go along to class and you feel like you're the only one. You know, everybody else is tiny and bendy and you're there struggling on your own. I think that's the dread, isn't it?

What led you from a student to a yoga teacher

So what led you from a student, a yoga student to yoga teacher? What made you want to teach it?

>> Julie Hansen: Well actually, I was a teacher before, so that was the kind of the big turning point for me was I was a fitness teacher and I knew I wanted to evolve into yoga and I wanted to find a teacher training. And I was met with a lot of closed doors in Scotland in the mid-90s of the attitude that you need to be doing yoga for four or five years before you take on, even thinking about becoming a teacher and by nature of the person I am, that wasn't doing it for me at all. And I thought there must be a different way in here. So when I, met Gerry Kalty and started to go to his class and realised as far as teacher trainings go, I wasn't gonna get it in Scotland. I then went to train myself in America over a period of time with all sorts of fantastic teachers and mostly with Shiva Ria, as an American yoga teacher, and I did it with the int of making yoga teaching accessible to people who wanted to teach it.

>> Claire Gray: Fantastic.

>> Julie Hansen: Because I was a fitness teacher and I was really quite annoyed that I couldn't hone my teaching abilities into something that was more in line with people who are maybe getting a bit older that want to do something a little bit more mindful. And so I started off on my journey to learn yoga, to teach yoga to others. That was my thing.

You describe yoga as mindful movement rather than just exercise

>> Claire Gray: And how would you, you mentioned that then. That's why I always describe yoga as mindful movement. How would you explain that to people? The difference between what you taught before, just a normal exercise class, how does that differentiate to mindful movement of yoga?

>> Julie Hansen: I think very much it's the components that you put into a yoga pose, you know, and it starts with, you know, breathing, uniting yoga and breath, the meaning of yoga. But, you know, your foundation, what you do from that foundation of your feet. If you're doing a standing pose, it might be your hands, if you're doing a handstand, but then how you arrange your body and then where you put your hips and then where you put, the middle bit and then when you put your arms and then where your head goes, your drishti, your focus point. And then you've got to breathe. And I think the chance of you being able to think about the fact that you didn't put on the dishwasher before you left has been taken out of the equation. And I think that the complexity of, the movement and the breath and the teaching and the internal feeling of how to make that happen quashes any ability to be able to think.

>> Claire Gray: Yes, yes. And that's funny, that's how I describe. Or that's the reason I say I love doing yoga because my mind tends to be overactive. And when you're in yoga, as you see, you've got so many things to think about, plus somebody giving you instructions as well, is all the different positions you're breathing. Yeah. You simply don't have time to think about anything else at all, do you?

>> Julie Hansen: No, you don't.

>> Claire Gray: So you're switch, you are becoming mindful.

>> Julie Hansen: And then I think the lovely thing ultimately is it makes you very aware of your inner self as well.

>> Claire Gray: True.

>> Julie Hansen: You know, you go into a yoga class and this might sound a bit kind of woo, woo, but you do a few practises and you think, oh, hang on a minute, this is definitely doing something, you know, and you become aware of. I, actually feel calmer I feel more centred somehow. How is that happening? And then you're thinking about how you feel internally, where in the years of aerobics, when you're faced with a mirror, some really great music and you were doing your grapevine to the right and grapevine to the left, you were more in the vibe of being in a nightclub and enjoying it, rather than going, how do I feel inside? What is this doing for me? So I think it's lovely that it internalises the feelings which the first class, you know, if you haven't been going for very long, you might be listening to this and going, what's she talking about? But eventually the penny does drop and you think, actually, I'm, feeling this on the inside. I'm really having to think this through and put my mind into how my body's feeling.

>> Claire Gray: Yeah, yeah. And I love the way that you call it a practise rather than. Because it's more than just exercise, isn't it?

>> Julie Hansen: Do you know, it's funny, I was thinking about that on the way in this morning, about how it's a practise and that in its meaning, the word is like something you never get good enough to stop practising. But weirdly, the practise becomes the journey and the journey changes, so you get older and the practise has to change to a different practise. And it just me would mean, I suppose, you never reach perfection, but the perfection is the journey, wherever you are. We all were beginners at one stage and the things I could do then compared to what I can do now. Not that it's about that at all, but, you know, the practise, my practise has changed hugely from when I started to now.

>> Claire Gray: Which gives you a sense of achievement, surely, doesn't it? And a willing to learn more.

>> Julie Hansen: It's a sense of acknowledgement, I think that, you know, it's okay, wherever I am today when I practise is exactly where my body and my mind wants me to be, you know, and whether it's, you know, 10 minutes and you think, right, maybe that's enough today, or whether it's longer than that. It's just exactly what you needed. And.

>> Claire Gray: Yeah. And how do you think. How do you think it impacts the rest of your life?

>> Julie Hansen: I think it has a huge effect, but you don't realise it's doing it, you know, it definitely, it's, Like I've said, it internalises. So you become more aware. So you become more aware of maybe an impending. I'M not feeling quite right. What's wrong here? Where before you weren't as sensitive to that, it starts to make you calmer, where you've got this kind of inner calmness. And I think this is why you are really drawn to it as well, isn't it?

>> Claire Gray: Trying, still trying to find the inner feel. Like I'm getting there. There's definite progress.

>> Julie Hansen: Yeah, but it's that end, you know, that moment at the end of a class or the moment at the, of the practise where you can think, actually, how different do I feel now to how I felt at the beginning? And then that acknowledgement of mentally, physically, emotionally, in every way, you're in a different place. Whether that was your intention or not, you do feel different. So it gives you an inner awareness, a, kind of calmness, a flexibility.

>> Claire Gray: Yeah, sure.

>> Julie Hansen: In attitude, in life, you know, and it's the, people that aren't flexible who say, oh, I can't do yoga. Are there people that should be doing it? Yes, you know, the flexible ones, you know, they should be doing something that's probably a bit more aligned with strengthening and bringing in, you know, parties and more consolidation. Anyway.

Yoga Nidra involves lying on the floor and doing nothing

>> Claire Gray: Yeah, when you talk there about the different things in your own life, for me, at the very end of the class, you know, in Shavasana M, and you're just lying there and they'll say, do nothing. That's the hardest thing for me. So that's where I have to do the most practise, to do nothing, even just to lie, which is bizarre. To lie with my hands by my side and do nothing for a minute or two. I find that the most difficult.

>> Julie Hansen: I think that's why Yoga Nidra is so popular. Have you ever tried Yoga Nidra? No, I have no, because it's one of these. It's a practise that, and I mean we use it on our, ah, teacher trainings all the time. And it always amuses me that, if you say to a class of, of students who are learning both as in yoga class or as in yoga teacher training, okay, it's Yoga Nidra. There is never any resistance. There's a scramble for the cushions, the blanket, the eye covers or whatever you've brought with you to lie flat, and I often look at and go, this is really interesting. Everybody is so receptive and looking forward to this practise and it's basically you lie on the floor and do nothing. But the teacher or the recording is taking you through all these different things. Movement, you know, Feeling your feet, feeling your right toenail, feeling your little finger, feeling your rib cage, you know, and it goes through this whole thing where you thinking while you're lying still, which is an hour of it. Supposed to be, around four hours of sleep. The equivalent of.

>> Claire Gray: Is that Right? So is that when you scan the body then you go. Right, yes.

>> Julie Hansen: So you have done it.

>> Claire Gray: I have done. Ah, that. Yeah, yeah. But yeah, I've struggled with it.

>> Julie Hansen: Have you?

>> Claire Gray: Yeah, yeah.

>> Julie Hansen: Well, either you struggle with it and your mind wandering, wandering onto. I don't like the tonality of that person's voice or what is that meaning? Or you know, I can't think of what she's saying. Or, you know, and then you bring back to either what they're saying in the yoga nidra and listen to a bit more. Or you fall asleep.

>> Claire Gray: Okay, Right, Okay.

>> Julie Hansen: And then you think, was I asleep?

>> Claire Gray: Yeah.

>> Julie Hansen: Was I in a place of a great abyss? blissful.

>> Claire Gray: The only time I've fallen asleep, I did one through lockdown. Again, I think this girl was taught by yourself, Julie. And it was yin yoga over zoom. And I fell asleep in the pigeon pose, which.

>> Julie Hansen: Yes, that's got to be the least likely pose you could fall asleep in. I know, but I'm actually, I don't know what a pigeon pose is. It's. You're bending one leg right in front. You're lying on top of your bent leg, which is at a quirky angle while you're breathing through it. That's amazing. You managed to fall asleep.

>> Claire Gray: So that's. But it shows that I have to be doing something strenuous at the same time to be able to calm down.

>> Julie Hansen: Anyway, maybe you should try doing Srivasana in a headstand or something like that.

>> Claire Gray: Yeah, maybe that would see how that works out. I managed Bird of Paradise on one leg for the first time this week, which I'm really thrilled about.

>> Julie Hansen: Well done.

>> Claire Gray: Yeah. There is this sense of achievement when you, can do something because a lot of the classes I still sit in and I think, no, I'm not even gonna attempt that, you know, because it's balanced is always a bit of a challenge for me and I think it was a certain age. But you, you can.

>> Julie Hansen: That's to do with your mind, you see. You know, if you. And I think it's always an interesting test at the beginning of a class, if you give people a balance to do. and the ones that kind of centred and grounded and focusing can balance, but the ones that are still back in the car park, parking and what they've got to do afterwards, all over the place. Because you're in your head, you're not in your body.

>> Claire Gray: Okay.

>> Julie Hansen: You're not in your foundation. so you know, it makes you off balance by nature.

>> Claire Gray: Right. Okay, so that's, I need to work on that as well then.

>> Julie Hansen: Balancing, standing on one leg for a while.

>> Claire Gray: And so your specialty.

>> Claire Gray: Is seasonal yoga. Can you explain to us what that means?

>> Julie Hansen: M so each time of year you change your habits according to what the weather and what the climate's doing.

>> Claire Gray: Sure.

>> Julie Hansen: So it's, I mean, I think the way I normally explain it is the difference between the summer and winter. So in the winter seasons it's colder, you feel more like hibernating, you want hot foods, you want to give your body a kind of cuddle and nurture, sleep longer, you know, get up later, go to bed earlier. Summer, it's the opposite. It's energy. You know, the sun shining, hopefully potentially, fingers crossed, in Glasgow, sun is shining, the foods are lighter, you're eating these water based foods. You don't need as much sleep because you've got more energy.

>> Claire Gray: Absolutely.

>> Julie Hansen: you're feeling a lot more like going out socially. where in the winter you sat at home with your foot in the one slipper, you know, watching a movie. In the summer somebody says you want to come out, you go, yeah, I'm going to come out.

>> Claire Gray: Yes.

>> Julie Hansen: So there's two different, contrasts of energy.

>> Claire Gray: Right.

>> Julie Hansen: It's basically about looking at the energy of outside, noticing the energy inside and living according to that energy. And there's kind of five or six changes a year, which is a great thing to do.

So this is the spring season, but depending geographically where you are

>> Claire Gray: Okay, so right now what should we be doing then?

>> Julie Hansen: So this is the spring season. Well, which should be the spring season, but depending geographically where you are. It's not been a great spring.

>> Claire Gray: Okay. Yeah, it's been a cold spring, definitely.

>> Julie Hansen: and this, it was aligned initially with traditional Chinese medicine which 3,000 years ago stated that different set of organs for each different times of year.

>> Claire Gray: Ah, okay.

>> Julie Hansen: So in the spring season it's about your liver and your gallbladder.

>> Claire Gray: Right.

>> Julie Hansen: So at the moment it's all about thinking about diet, wise cleaning up your act a bit and having stir fries, crunchy greens, in foods and still warm because it's too cold to do the sanity thing. M And then in your mind it should be clarity, thinking where you're going for this year, focusing on what you'd like to achieve, focusing on your intentions. And then for practise, more stretchy, because you're stretching out of hibernation into the more flexible times of year. So this season is a big change from what we call the yin seasons, the quiet dark seasons, to the yang seasons, the noisy, flexible, hot seasons. So this transition, you're starting to stretch your body out of hibernation, and then the flexibility gets the muscles working again, which starts to allow the body to be less toxic. And so you're helping the liver on its journey of detoxifying the body by doing more stretch, by cleaning up your act, by having an intention of where you're going this year, and by going more outdoor walking, breathing in all the lovely fresh air. And then you would be doing the opposite of that when we're changing into the cold seasons.

>> Claire Gray: Yeah, see, that's fascinating. Cause that instinctively, that is what you feel like. I know, like January, February. I do not want to cross over my front door.

>> Julie Hansen: Pretty much.

>> Claire Gray: I don't wanna go out, I want to hibernate. I wanna sit and watch movies and eat. March, you're kind of in the mood that you want to come back out. And then April is in May, as soon as the weather is better, you do want to be doing more. Your energy levels change completely. And even the amount of sleep you need, that changes, doesn't it?

>> Julie Hansen: Yes, it absolute. And I mean, it's all around the, circadian or circadian rhythm, whichever you call it, because there's a whole rhythm and a change to nature. And if you look what nature is doing, look at a tree, you know, it's growing at the moment, so you should be growing, you know, but in the autumn, the leaves are falling off because we've got. The leaves have got no longer anything. There's no SAP rising, there's nothing for them to hang onto, so they shrivel up and drop off. And that's that transitional change as well. But naturally, we all know to live like this, we've all forgotten that's it.

>> Claire Gray: So, yeah, that is an amazing reminder. And that's a good way of looking at it, is thinking of ourselves as plants or, you know, so not to beat yourself up in February if you feel like staying indoors or you want to just not go out and see people.

>> Julie Hansen: But, I remember once when I was teaching one of my classes and saying to people, you know, that. And it was probably mid January or something, you know, if you don't feel like going out, you shouldn't be going out. You should be Staying in. And of course, next, the following Monday night or whatever it was, nobody's at the class, so I had to change the following Monday, saying, I don't mean yoga.

>> Claire Gray: Yeah, don't give that up.

>> Julie Hansen: I just meant socially. furiously backpedalling.

>> Claire Gray: Yeah, no, I'm just busy thinking I can stay home and eat chocolate, watch movies for the whole month of February.

>> Julie Hansen: Which is different practise, but it is an amazing thing. And I think the great thing about teaching the seasonal yoga practise, you have an awareness that each time of year and it changes about every weeks, you should be doing different things.

>> Claire Gray: Right.

>> Julie Hansen: Really should be. Intentions should be different. The dieting or food or not dieting, but the food and nutrition you have is different. Your attitude to life is different. Which organ is heightening, to the surface is different. So you've got different needs and wants.

>> Claire Gray: And you should be focusing on different things then every couple of months so.

>> Julie Hansen: It doesn't get boring.

>> Claire Gray: Well, yeah, that's true as well.

>> Julie Hansen: Yeah. It's a nice way to live. It really is. And it keeps you aware of the body's different needs at different times and how you stay more in balance.

>> Claire Gray: And have you had any kind of feedback from people? Have you seen any changes in people that you've shown this way of living or this way of life, this lifestyle?

>> Julie Hansen: The great thing about teacher trainings, is that you start at one time of year, it takes a year. So you introduce them to a season and then you get them to live the season while we're teaching them to teach yoga. And then by the time they finish the course, they've lived each season and they've changed their habits and lifestyle and attitude each season. And the evolution that people get through this practise is enormous. It's life changing a bit. and we get to witness that every time we do it. And it's a fantastic thing. And I mean, it's thanks to 3,000 years of gosh a go, you know, how are these people? And they were designed to keep, people. Well, it wasn't treating illness, it was maintaining a wellness. And it's. That's really what it's all about. It's maintaining your health and wellness and noticing when you don't feel right. And why is that? And what can I do to rebalance this feeling before it becomes disease or disease or illness?

>> Claire Gray: We've got a lot to thank traditional Chinese medicine for, haven't we? There's so many things we've forgotten along the way, but you look at Things nowadays like acupuncture, acupressure, reflexology, you know, even if you think about, like, in the skincare side of things, the gua sha and the rulings every morning.

>> Julie Hansen: I do that.

>> Claire Gray: You do? Well, you can tell because your skin's amazing. So, yeah, we've got a lot to thank them for.

So how do you stay motivated, Julie, on days that you don't feel motivated

So how do you stay motivated, Julie, on days that you. Maybe if it is a cold February morning, for example, how do you stay motivated to.

>> Julie Hansen: Well, I suppose, I have my rituals and my habits. and, I'm very, very particular about walking. My talk, I. I make sure if I'm telling others to do something, that I'm doing it too. Otherwise there's no integrity in what I do. So my whole philosophy is sharing what I do and who I am, not sharing what I think I should be telling people.

>> Claire Gray: Great.

>> Julie Hansen: But different times of year, I do different things and, always start with breath. Always wake up in the morning, start with breath. Just taking three or four really deep breaths to get my body to its optimal awakeness before I even move. and then go about all the habitual things, you know, the routines that I do on a daily basis. And then I've got a little dog, so I take him for a walk and, I'm forever grateful. Occasionally not grateful for the barking, but grateful for the need to have to go out three times a day in nature. And that mindfulness of being out and looking at the trees and looking at the world around me and then coming back and getting on with my working day is an absolute blessing.

>> Claire Gray: That sets you up for the day, I take it, then.

>> Julie Hansen: Yeah, it does. And I've got different things I do different times of year, different things I eat for breakfast, different practises, different I change according to. Because I can't, you know, you can't go, I'm going to do this every day of my life now.

>> Claire Gray: No, I know. It gets boring, I guess.

>> Julie Hansen: Oh, it does get boring. So you've got to bring a bit of variety into it. variety of how you think, how you doing something, what time you're getting up, what time you're going to sleep, who you're interacting with or how often are you interacting with them and, you know, how are you thinking internally and can I change that? Is there something not right here? And just constantly inner inquiry with the parameters of this living in season.

>> Claire Gray: Nice.

Seasonal yoga gives us better sleep, says Julie Hansen

So if there was three reasons, if somebody's listening today and they're really curious about how they can get into yoga and seasonal Yoga or this kind of lifestyle in particular, what would you say the three reasons they should do it, make some changes.

>> Julie Hansen: I think the first thing is it gives you more awareness of yourself. And with more awareness of self comes the ability to have an early warning system of the things not being right. Whether it's, and I'm not talking about physically as well as mentally, emotionally. In the world around you, you become more sensitised, which I think is a good thing for all of us. and then over and above that, and when no, they're all equal actually is not above it at all, but feeling fitter, feeling, your body is being used. I mean, exercise and movement is an essential pillar of healthy longevity, which is really what we all should be looking at now. There's no point in being healthy without longevity. There's no point in having longevity without health. The two have to come together. So going in and noticing any changes, so going inward, moving, really hugely beneficial. And I think the really important thing is it gives us better sleep. Because if you get better sleep, you can function better. your body has rested properly, you can think straighter. and so doing a couple of things which lead you to be able to rest and recover. And so that sleep comes into rest, recovery or ability to, you know what we were talking about earlier, do a meditation, do yoga nidra, in whatever form that is comes from doing this kind of practise. Yeah.

>> Claire Gray: Yep.

>> Julie Hansen: And I'm not talking about seasonal, I'm talking about everything. You know, exercising in general.

>> Claire Gray: Yeah. I mean, I feel sleep in particular just makes you a nicer person, doesn't.

>> Julie Hansen: It, when you've had enough sleep, doesn't it just. I mean, it's really, really important. And that noticing that if you're not sleeping.

>> Julie Hansen: And then going through this question, internal dialogue of, well, why am I not sleeping? Did I have, too much coffee yesterday or did I have a coffee at 3 o'clock in the afternoon? Or, why has this happened? Having the ability to have the internal dialogue comes from doing mindful movement.

>> Claire Gray: True. Yeah. Because you're more aware of how your body works and how different things impact your body.

>> Julie Hansen: But mindful movement can equally be going on a lovely walk every day and, noticing the world around you.

>> Claire Gray: Yep.

>> Julie Hansen: And how you feel after you've had that walk.

>> Claire Gray: Definitely, definitely. Thank you so much, Julie. I feel like I could talk to you forever. If somebody wants to learn more from you about seasonal yoga, where's the best place to find out more?

>> Julie Hansen: Well, go to juliehansen.com. because you probably remember that more than anything. And I mean we teach now out of the lovely Prince and Princess of Wales hospice in Glasgow in Ballyhooston park. But seasonal yoga as such. We have a site there, seasonal yoga, offers teacher trainings all over the country.

>> Claire Gray: Okay.

>> Julie Hansen: and also classes all over the country. We've got fantastic teachers. If you just Google seasonal yoga you'll find teachers. I do workshops once every season in the hospice in the big conference. Beautiful conference suite upstairs.

>> Claire Gray: Oh, that's good too.

>> Julie Hansen: A great cafe there you can go and use afterwards. It's a lovely environment.

>> Claire Gray: Yeah, it's beautiful setting, isn't it?

>> Julie Hansen: Yeah. And we do, we do a foundation course which I'm starting in September in the hospice, which is the basic grassroots of what this is. Ah. With me and my lovely, co teacher Claire Davidson. And I just love opening people's mind to this stuff. It's the best thing you can do for a living and see people get better, feel more well, feel m. More balanced, feel rested. so that's it. Juliehansen.com or seasonal yoga. Or come along to the foundation course we're doing in September in the hospital and sign up and I'll introduce you to how you can make your life better.

>> Claire Gray: Amazing. Thank you so much.

>> Julie Hansen: Thank you, thank you.